1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,040 In the criminal justice system 2 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,560 the people are represented by two separate 3 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:06,080 yet equally important groups - 4 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,120 the police who investigate crime, 5 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:11,240 and the crown prosecutors who prosecute the offenders. 6 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:12,760 These are their stories. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,640 I need a paramedic! 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,160 I need a paramedic now! 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,640 Max. Max, open your eyes. 10 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,560 I never meant to kill anyone! 11 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,720 I sincerely hope you're gonna charge him with 15 counts of murder 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,520 and 120 counts of attempted murder. 13 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,440 Who's repping him? Kate Barker. 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,960 Diminished responsibility. My client has a history of depression, 15 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,720 with emotional unstable personality traits. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,320 All Gavin Dale will choose is what kind of flowers to put on his son's grave. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:50,760 This is a speech, m'lady. 18 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,800 If he gets a hospital order, he'll be out in six months. 19 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,600 Or detained for the rest of his life. He's not mentally ill. 20 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,160 The doctors in a secure unit will spot it in a second. 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:01,080 On the charge of the murder of Max Dale, 22 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,560 how do you find the defendant? Not guilty. 23 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:07,800 But guilty of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility. 24 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Kate will be joining us from Monday, Alesha's replacement. 25 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,400 Who's for a celebratory drink? 26 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,080 Here to see Finn Tyler. 27 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,720 What are you doing here? Sam. 28 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,960 He's dead. Tyler's dead. 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,640 Ligature marks consistent with hanging. 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:33,960 Um, security guard cut him down, removed this. 31 00:01:33,960 --> 00:01:36,240 Get the guard's DNA for elimination. 32 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,960 Already happening. And I want the PM today, right? 33 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,560 Pathologist's en route. 34 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:43,480 Nice one, Pete. Cheers. 35 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:46,280 Hey, Kate, are you all right? Yeah, I'm OK. 36 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,920 God, that must have been a shocker. Yeah, it was. 37 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,400 Don't look so worried, it's just for elimination purposes, OK? 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,360 I couldn't save him. 39 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,480 We're going to need a statement when you're feeling up to it, 40 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,520 if that's OK. All right? 41 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:03,360 DS Casey there, he'll take all your details, all right? 42 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,640 Ron. Yes, guv. 43 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,680 They're as vigilant as we are about suicide prevention, yeah? 44 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,280 No belts, no shoe laces, 15-minute checks on vulnerable prisoners, 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,520 so how did he get that cord in there? 46 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,000 Could have smuggled it in from prison. 47 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,000 They'd have searched him. 48 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,560 Well, look, Wes, you know better than anyone, there's always a way. 49 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,600 And it's not as if it's the first time he's tried to top himself. 50 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,920 If he'd used a noose the first time, the people he killed would still be alive. 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,000 Look, what if he didn't smuggle that cord in from prison? 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,920 What if someone gave it to him? 53 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,920 What were you doing in the cell, Sam? 54 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,120 Oh, you're having a laugh, aren't you? 55 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,080 I saw you. Just leave me alone, OK? 56 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,840 I don't need this now. More to the point, 57 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Tyler's brief saw you. 58 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,960 Am I supposed to leave that out of my statement? 59 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,640 Ron, any news, mate? Yeah, guv. 60 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,720 Yeah, the, um... 61 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,360 the CCTV system at the court is still down. 62 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,840 When it's up and running they'll send it over. 63 00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:21,760 I'll want footage for the whole time Tyler was in that cell. 64 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,480 Er, Sam's supposed to be on rest days. He needs sending home. 65 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:28,120 You what? Well, 66 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,520 the truth is the trial's been pretty hard on him. 67 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,440 Yeah. Have you looked out here? 68 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,160 I'm four staff down and we've got a possible assisted suicide. 69 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,840 Deaths in custody don't do much for our popularity. 70 00:04:39,840 --> 00:04:41,760 Tyler was not in our custody. 71 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,320 He was a prisoner in the biggest court in the country. 72 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,640 If someone gave him the means to kill himself, all eyes are on us to find out what went wrong. 73 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,920 Yeah, but if... Find out who gave him that cord 74 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,160 and Sammy boy can go play golf, get pissed, 75 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,840 or do whatever floats his boat. 76 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:57,400 But until Tyler's killer's banged up in those cells 77 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,640 and there's some case papers on my desk, he's working this, Ron. 78 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Ah! Bottle of bubbly now our new prosecutor has finally arrived. 79 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,240 I'm not stopping. Course you are. 80 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,520 Don't force her, Henry, if she's got something better to do. 81 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,040 Tyler's dead. 82 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,120 How? He hung himself. 83 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,800 I found him. 84 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Shit. Are you OK? 85 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,800 I'd better go back to the office. 86 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 The media are going to be all over this. 87 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,480 I'll come with you. No, you take the afternoon. 88 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,520 And buy Kate's lunch. 89 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:38,560 Keep an eye on her. 90 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:47,280 Don't you feel even the slightest bit responsible? 91 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:51,440 You could have accepted a plea to diminished responsibility and kept it out of court. 92 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,640 You know Tyler was mentally ill. The court case tore him apart. 93 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,160 The only people I feel any responsibility towards 94 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,640 are the families whose loved ones Tyler murdered. 95 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,800 It was manslaughter. The jury found on manslaughter, diminished responsibility. 96 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,960 What do you want? 97 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,160 A pint. 98 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,000 What? Defence barristers usually opt for something more expensive. 99 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,360 You're forgetting, I'm on your team now. 100 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,360 Don't remind me. 101 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,640 'They only sent him to hospital for a few months. I'm glad he's dead. 102 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,800 He murdered my little boy and my wife. 103 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,080 He murdered 15 innocent people. 104 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,600 It's the state that should have hung him. 105 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,280 Now I'm gonna try and get on with my life. 106 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,760 I reckon justice has been served.' 107 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Death by asphyxiation with...said item. 108 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Right. 109 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,880 We were trying to work out how he got this into the cell. 110 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Could he have smuggled it in internally? 111 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,480 I've retrieved all manner of things from anal cavities, Ronnie, 112 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,640 but you're assuming it was suicide. 113 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,840 It wasn't? I said asphyxiation. 114 00:07:02,840 --> 00:07:04,320 He had a helping hand. 115 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,000 Curvilinear abrasions. 116 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,120 He could have tried to pull himself free. 117 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,200 Only if his hands were on back to front. 118 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,240 If I'm fighting for my life, 119 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:18,720 the nail marks are at the front and this way round. 120 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,760 So, what are these bruises doing on the back of his neck? 121 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,800 You took thorough fingernail scrapings? 122 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,000 Mm-hm. 123 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:31,560 So what are you saying, Lilly? 124 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,800 You're certain Finn Tyler was murdered? 125 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,360 A bruising on his back confirms it. 126 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,600 The killer held him down with his knee, 127 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,520 choked him from behind with the cord, 128 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,560 scraping his neck, leaving nail marks, 129 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,080 and then he strung him up. 130 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Textbook staged suicide. 131 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,440 The in-cell security cameras weren't recording, 132 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,200 but we got some footage of the corridor approaching the cell. 133 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,760 What about the door? Can you see anyone going in and out? 134 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,280 No, just the approach. 135 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,280 But this is the last cell on the block, so from this view 136 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,720 they can't be going anywhere else. Right. 137 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 The custody security officer, a William Braxton, 138 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:12,840 gave us a copy of the log. 139 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,400 That's a list of everyone who signs in and out. 140 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,600 Briefs and security guards mostly. 141 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:20,600 Last in was Tyler's brief with Ronnie. 142 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,280 And before that? In the 15 minutes before, 143 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,520 only two people were seen entering the block - 144 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,680 one security guard who was coming on shift, 145 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,240 but he didn't go near the cell. 146 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,000 Only one person was seen approaching the cell 147 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,320 in the 45 minutes before Tyler was found dead. 148 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,440 So, who was it? 149 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,400 Please, guv. I've got a DPS officer waiting to speak to me. 150 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,040 Let me speak to him first. You're his partner, man, 151 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,360 it's against every protocol. He is either going to clam up 152 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,000 or totally lose the plot, but I can get through to him. 153 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,040 What was he doing in that cell, Ron? 154 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,480 I don't know, it could be all manner of reasons. 155 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,440 Give me one that doesn't implicate him in Tyler's murder. 156 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,760 Just let me get in there with you. No, sorry, you're out. 157 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,120 DS Casey, you were the last person seen entering the cell block. 158 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,880 And you appear on CCTV approaching Tyler's cell 159 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,720 immediately preceding his death. 160 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,840 Can you explain what you were doing there? 161 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,080 I went to get the property forms signed. 162 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,280 We still had Tyler's personal effects from his arrest. 163 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,800 But your partner, DS Brooks, had the forms in his possession. 164 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,320 I didn't realise that. I thought I had them. 165 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,440 Where? 166 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,640 Excuse me? Where did you think they were? 167 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,320 In a briefcase? Bag? 168 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,160 You weren't carrying anything that might conceal the forms. 169 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,800 I wasn't carrying a noose either. 170 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,520 I'm sorry, I thought the forms were in my jacket pocket. 171 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,240 OK. So what did you do when you found out they weren't? 172 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,760 I turned round and walked out. 173 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:30,160 Ronnie was in reception with Tyler's brief. 174 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,840 He can vouch for me. 175 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:39,560 So, um, you never spoke to Tyler? No. 176 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,720 No? Never opened the wicket? No. 177 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:47,720 We know how you felt about Tyler, you must have been furious he got a hospital order. 178 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,600 Yeah, well, we all were, weren't we? 179 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:56,360 Well, we weren't all seen on CCTV... approaching his cell. 180 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:58,520 You were down there ten minutes. 181 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,120 It doesn't take that to find out you ain't got the forms in your pocket. 182 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Am I under arrest? 183 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,880 Not yet, no. 184 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,360 But we would like you to help us with our inquiries. 185 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:10,960 I'm sure your fed rep would urge you to cooperate. 186 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:14,160 I don't really care what he thinks. Or you. 187 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,400 DS Casey... Sam. 188 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:23,560 Sam! DS Casey, 189 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:27,120 if you don't answer these questions now, you'll answer them under arrest! 190 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:30,720 All those people dead and you are wasting time on the man that killed them! 191 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:32,800 Walk out now, you're making a big mistake. 192 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,640 Do I look like I give a toss? Sam, calm down. Tell the guv... 193 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,080 Guv? He's not my guv! Do you think it's that easy? 194 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,040 I held that boy in my arms! 195 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,120 I haven't slept for months! 196 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:47,040 Every time I close my eyes, I see that boy's face! 197 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,080 I see his dad's face when I had to tell him 198 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,160 that his son was dead! 199 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,040 So yes, I went down there 200 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,080 to tell Tyler how that felt. 201 00:11:57,080 --> 00:12:01,240 All right? I went down there to try and make him feel that pain. 202 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,080 But do you know what? I couldn't do it. 203 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,960 Because being a police officer came first. 204 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:13,680 I... 205 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:18,680 I swear to God, Ron, I swear to God, I turned around and I walked away. 206 00:12:18,680 --> 00:12:21,840 It was a very slow walk, cos you were off camera for ten minutes. 207 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,680 DS Casey, I'm suspending you pending further investigation. 208 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,160 You can leave your warrant card with me. Good. 209 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:33,760 Good! 210 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,800 * 211 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Sam, wait. What? He thinks... 212 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,600 You know, he thinks I'm some sort of nutcase. 213 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:50,840 Yeah, but he doesn't know you. Well, you do. 214 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,440 What do YOU think? I think you've been through a lot. 215 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,480 Oh, Ronnie. Sam! 216 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,080 What were you doing for those ten minutes? 217 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:03,680 Look, just take it easy. 218 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,920 You've got a young lad that needs you. 219 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:09,040 I know! Well, I can help you, 220 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,840 and I will help you, but you've got to be honest with me. 221 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,800 What did you do for those ten minutes? 222 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,680 Come on. 223 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:20,080 Sam. I wanted to go in there. 224 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,640 I've already said I wanted to go in there and tell him what he'd done - 225 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,480 how it felt to hold a dying child in my arms because of him. 226 00:13:29,680 --> 00:13:32,960 How it feels every time I kiss my boy goodbye. 227 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,760 All I can see is that kid's face, dead in that train. 228 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:42,920 What did you do? 229 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,880 Wh- 230 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:50,760 You want to know what I did for those ten minutes? Yes. 231 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:56,000 I just sat down by that cell door and I cried like a baby. 232 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,040 All right, well look... Come on. Come on. 233 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,160 I've seen many an officer with that look in their eyes. 234 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Don't worry about that. You're strong enough, you'll come through this. 235 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,960 You're a good copper, Sam. No. 236 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,240 You are. No, I'm not. 237 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,800 You are. Just don't let all your good work end here. 238 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,320 I need to know one thing. 239 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,360 Did you see Tyler? 240 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,680 No. OK. 241 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,280 I swear, Ronnie. I swear. 242 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:39,560 Well, no-one went to his cell after you, 243 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,600 except for his brief that found him. 244 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:46,320 So Tyler must have already been dead when you went down there. 245 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,560 You believe me, don't you? 246 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Yes, I believe you. 247 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,760 Hello there, William. 248 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,640 You'd think they'd give you some time off, wouldn't you? 249 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,560 They offered. I'd rather just keep working. Yeah. 250 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:14,320 Well, I hope you don't mind, I just need to ask you a few more questions. 251 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,000 Go for it. Right. 252 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Well, we're just trying to establish time of death, 253 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,960 and just wanted to know 254 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:23,800 how long Tyler was in the cell before he was found. 255 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:26,440 They brought him down straight after sentencing, 256 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,040 so an hour, maybe. 257 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,560 Right. 258 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,280 Because we've only seen 45 minutes of CCTV footage. 259 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,520 Maybe it was more like 45 minutes, then. 260 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,080 I wasn't clock watching. 261 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,120 What are you having, then? 262 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,160 I'm not hungry. 263 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,360 Well, this is supposed to be your welcome to the CPS lunch. 264 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Well, I don't feel much like celebrating. 265 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,880 Second thoughts about switching sides? 266 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,400 My client just killed himself. One less killer on the streets. 267 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:02,600 You sure you don't want to join the "bring back hanging" brigade? 268 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,680 Of course not, but it isn't such a stretch to see why so many people feel that way. 269 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:10,760 It is for me. You know, if I'd been the one prosecuting Tyler, 270 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,000 I'm not sure I'd sleep so well tonight. 271 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,160 You really want me to feel guilty? Don't you? 272 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:18,200 Not even the tiniest bit? 273 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,680 A man took his own life. You were instrumental in the process. 274 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:26,400 I was just doing my job. But you aren't just your job, Jake. 275 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,720 You're a human being too. 276 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,640 There's plenty of people who'd disagree with you there. 277 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,160 Do you ever open up? 278 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,600 Do you ever just cut the bullshit and the wisecracks 279 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,840 and just...get real? 280 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,840 Why aren't you at work? I'm on rest days. 281 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:52,880 It's not a good time. It never is. 282 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,400 Ben's busy. He's got homework to do. I'll do it with him. 283 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,040 He's seven years old. I mean, how hard can it be? 284 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,040 Have you been drinking? 285 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,680 No. 286 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Daddy! Hey, kid! 287 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:10,840 Ohh! 288 00:17:12,360 --> 00:17:15,720 How's my little squidge? Eh? 289 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,280 Mm. 290 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,520 How you been, all right? Yeah. Yeah? 291 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,920 I want him back by 4:30. 292 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,960 Thank you. 293 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,280 Are we gonna have a fun day? Yeah. Yeah? 294 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,280 You got past the mob on the steps, then. 295 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,320 Well, I had the advantage. 296 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,760 They haven't a clue who I am. Lucky you. 297 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,080 Tabloids are blaming us for Tyler getting a hospital order, 298 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:43,520 the broadsheets want my neck 299 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,440 for driving a mentally-ill defendant to suicide. 300 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:49,120 Can't win. Maybe I can put your mind at rest. 301 00:17:49,120 --> 00:17:51,160 No-one drove Finn Tyler to suicide. 302 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,120 He was murdered. 303 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:55,160 You're sure? Mm-hm. 304 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,400 I don't know what's worse. 305 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,800 Who's that, kid? You. 306 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,120 Me? You know, it's a long time since I've been in a uniform. 307 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:17,360 But my teacher won't know you're a policeman 308 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:19,040 if you don't have a uniform. 309 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:22,360 That's what your homework is? You have to draw pictures of your dads? 310 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:24,280 No. 311 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,640 We've got to draw pictures of our heroes. 312 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:35,720 Checked the timings. Tyler was in his cell 313 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,680 over an hour before he was found. Where's the missing 15 minutes, then? 314 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,960 I think that footage has been edited. 315 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,360 I'll get the timecodes checked, see if there's any gaps or jumps. 316 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,000 You know I believe Sam's innocent, don't you? 317 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,040 You're loyal, I remember that. 318 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,560 And I remember you when you used to pound the streets 319 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,760 just to get your man. You loved it out there - 320 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,440 the last person I thought would ever turn corporate. 321 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,280 Bigger pay cheque, mate. You were never motivated by money. 322 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:11,720 Martine and me came back to London cos we're doing IVF. 323 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,760 Second round. 324 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,600 You've got two girls, right? Mm. 325 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,320 I'd give all this up in a heartbeat to be a dad. 326 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:40,000 You're popular. Yeah, it's a curse. 327 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,440 So who's Cara? 328 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:46,480 It's gonna be bags of fun sharing an office with you 329 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Sorry, I'm dead nosy. Always have been. 330 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,240 Why are you swapping sides? 331 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,280 I fancied a change. 332 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,640 Your turn. Who's Cara? 333 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000 My mother's nurse. Your mum's ill? 334 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,040 My mum's dead. 335 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,320 Was it recent, then? Last week. 336 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,040 Shit. 337 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,800 I'm sorry. Don't be. 338 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,840 She wasn't exactly warm and cuddly. 339 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,760 What about when you were a kid? Why are you joining the CPS? Really. 340 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:17,000 I'm bored of all the fake wining and dining with solicitors 341 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,720 touting for business. 342 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,920 I'd rather spend my Friday nights with a DVD and a Chinese. Nah. 343 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,000 You don't spend six years choosing only to defend 344 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,520 and wake up one day and become a prosecutor. 345 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,760 Sticky toffee pudding and hot chocolate. 346 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:32,600 In aid of Hendry's credit card. 347 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:52,320 Jake Thorne's phone, hello. 348 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,280 See you tomorrow, guys. 349 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:01,640 Bye. 350 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,080 Do you want to come in? 351 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,160 Hello? 352 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Oh, hi, Ange. Yup, yeah, I'll be there. 353 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,320 Thank you. 354 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,080 I wish you could come back home. 355 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,520 I know, kid. 356 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,120 Me too. 357 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,720 I never got scared of monsters when you lived with us. 358 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,560 Monsters? Are you scared of monsters now? 359 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,600 At night I am. 360 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,880 I'll tell you a secret, shall I? 361 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,960 You see, grown-ups, they er... 362 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,000 they make up stories about monsters 363 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:49,240 so they'll scare children into doing what they're told. 364 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,480 But they're not real. 365 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,040 See, real monsters, they look like us. 366 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,320 They're human. 367 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,000 They don't hide underneath the bed, or... 368 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,280 ..lurk in the dark, they're um... 369 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,040 ..they're out there, 370 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,080 or in here. 371 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,960 But it's Daddy's job to catch them and lock them up. Yeah? 372 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,160 I said 4:30. I knew I couldn't trust you. 373 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:31,160 Cathy, I'm sorry. I just... I lost track of time, that's all. 374 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,920 It's the last time, Sam. One weekend a month from now on. 375 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:38,040 You bring him back one second late and you lose that, too. Come on. 376 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,480 Bye, Dad. See you, kid. 377 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,600 You had no right to answer my phone! I'm sorry. 378 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,280 Well, did you check my texts too? 379 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,240 Rifle through my coat pockets maybe? Don't be daft. 380 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,320 I can't work with someone I can't trust. 381 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,360 You can trust me. You can. 382 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,920 Look, your mum's nurse, she just wanted to make sure 383 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,400 you'll be at the funeral tomorrow. She told you? 384 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,160 She just came out with it. I think she thought I was your girlfriend. 385 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,240 I'm not even having this conversation with you. 386 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,120 There's 15 minutes and 32 seconds missing. 387 00:23:22,120 --> 00:23:25,440 They're all in one block? It's in two different sections. 388 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,560 The first is ten minutes after Finn Tyler arrived in the cell - 389 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,040 six minutes missing there. That's long enough. 390 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:34,640 And 11 minutes missing immediately before Sam arrived. 391 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,480 That clears Sam's name. So who could have tampered with the footage? 392 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,840 There's whole sections missing. 393 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,440 I passed it on, that's all I did. 394 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,480 Is the log accurate? Yeah. 395 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,600 I'm a bit OCD about it. 396 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,960 No-one gets past me without signing in. 397 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,600 Right. 398 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:58,480 Well, someone went into Tyler's cell in those missing minutes, 399 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,520 and I think that someone killed him. 400 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,560 I thought it was suicide. 401 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,160 Murder. 402 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,680 You see, William, if someone did go into that cell... 403 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,560 I think that footage was tampered with. 404 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,600 What do you think? 405 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:20,920 A lot of angry people in that court yesterday, weren't there, eh? 406 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,000 Maybe you turned a blind eye. They wouldn't blame you. 407 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Maybe you let someone into Tyler's cell. 408 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,400 What do you say? 409 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,800 If I'd know what he was gonna do... 410 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,000 Go on. He was only in there a few minutes. 411 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,840 Who was? 412 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,680 Gavin Dale? Yeah. Why? 413 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,800 I'm arresting you under suspicion of the murder of Finn Tyler. 414 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,040 ..everything you do say may be used in evidence. 415 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,680 If you want me to be sorry he's dead, you'll have a long wait. 416 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,840 The security guard told us he let you into Tyler's cell. 417 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,880 He told you? 418 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,000 Mm-hm. Why did you go into his cell, Mr Dale? 419 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,760 I wanted Tyler to look me in the eye. 420 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,600 I wanted him to say he was sorry for killing my wife and my son. 421 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,320 And did he? 422 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,160 Too busy feeling sorry for himself. 423 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,280 And did that make you angry? 424 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,640 I was out in Afghanistan six months. 425 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,520 I kept a picture of my wife and my boy with me the whole time. 426 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,640 It was the only thing that kept me going. 427 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,600 The thought of getting back to them. 428 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:04,120 You must have hated Finn Tyler, then, for taking that away from you. 429 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,840 Is that why you killed him? 430 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:09,680 I never killed him. 431 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,240 So what did you do, just talk to him? 432 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Yeah. I told him I hoped he rotted in the hospital. 433 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,040 Told him even if he got out next week 434 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,080 he'd have to live with what he'd done. 435 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,600 And then you left? Yeah. 436 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,280 So, um, how come the cord from your jacket 437 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,320 ended up round Tyler's neck? 438 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,240 We're having it tested. 439 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,800 And we both know those tests are gonna show that 440 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,840 the cord that choked Finn Tyler 441 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,960 is the same cord missing from your jacket, 442 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,400 so let me ask you again - 443 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,720 how did the cord from your jacket end up round Tyler's neck? 444 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,960 I gave it to him. 445 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,640 I put it in his hands. 446 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,040 I told him to do the right thing, but then I left. 447 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,840 If you want to charge me for giving him the means to kill himself, go ahead, but I'm glad he did it. 448 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,320 Cos now we can all have some sort of peace. 449 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,520 All? Mm, the rest of the families. 450 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:14,840 The victims group? 451 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,280 Hear the way he talked about those other families? 452 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,440 Collectively having some sort of peace now Tyler's dead. 453 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Like he did it for them? Like they did it together. 454 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,560 How many in that victims group? About 15. 455 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,320 They were after compensation from the train company, 456 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:34,760 had the same solicitor. 457 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,160 But they met up regularly? I believe so, yeah. 458 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,920 It became a sort of support group, you know. 459 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,600 A few of them were interviewed after Tyler's death. 460 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,240 They seemed pretty happy about it. You bet they were. 461 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,920 Every one of them had motive. Maybe Dale wasn't in this alone. 462 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,480 Knock-knock. Morning. 463 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,560 I take it this one's mine? Unfortunately. 464 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,920 Well, this is gonna be a lot of fun 465 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,080 if you're planning on holding a grudge. 466 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,160 I don't hold grudges, but I do value my privacy. 467 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,160 Duly noted. Lesson learned. 468 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,600 I can apologise again, if it would help. 469 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,360 OK. 470 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,480 What are you doing here, anyway? 471 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,800 Shouldn't you be at your mum's funeral? 472 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,840 I'm not going. 473 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200 Not that it's any of your business. 474 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,120 Can't be too careful. 475 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:50,040 Mate, can I get another one of these when you're ready? 476 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,720 I don't want to hassle you, son, I've already left two messages, 477 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,360 so just give us a call when you get this, will you? 478 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,280 OK, cheers. 479 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,320 Emma? 480 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:09,680 What do YOU want? 481 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,640 I was in the area, so um... 482 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,040 Just give me five minutes, please? 483 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,800 All right. 484 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,200 Give it a kick. 485 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,440 We had the same one at my last chambers. 486 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,080 Let me have a go. Come on. Come on. 487 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,680 We could go out for coffee. 488 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760 On me. A peace offering. 489 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400 You can show me where's good round here. 490 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,760 One condition. Name it. 491 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,040 We don't talk about me. Fine. 492 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080 I'm sure you're dying to find out all about me anyway. 493 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,240 So how did you find me? Well, it was your sister. 494 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Sarah said she was back in touch with you. 495 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,400 She had no right to tell you where I worked. 496 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840 I'm glad she did. Eh? 497 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800 Anyway, what about that little boy of hers, eh? Matthew. 498 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,600 He's a cracker, in't he? Sarah always was the lucky one. 499 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,120 Got it all, didn't she? Husband, kid, 500 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,720 cosy relationship with her dad. 501 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,160 You can have that as well, Emma, can't you? 502 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,320 Sarah had the luxury of knowing you before the drinking. 503 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,720 She tells me you're single. 504 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,520 Why would I want to get hooked up? 505 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,840 Follow the shining example you and Mum set 506 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,800 I dunno, kids maybe? It worked for you 507 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,440 Emma, I'm... Look, I'm sorry, I really am. 508 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,880 Can we start again, please? Huh? 509 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Come on, eh? 510 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,960 What made you stop drinking? 511 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:05,120 Well, what made me stop? Well, what got me started? 512 00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,400 That's a better story. I just assumed it was me. 513 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,440 No! Absolutely not. 514 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:11,880 Of course not. God... 515 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,840 I was four when you staggered out of my life. 516 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,400 What's a four-year-old supposed to think? 517 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,080 Well,... 518 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,680 ..what's a 24-year-old think? 519 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,160 You remembered. 520 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520 Homerton Hospital. 521 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,960 -3:22 - AM. 522 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,000 Some dates you never forget. 523 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,080 You forgot the last eight of them. 524 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,560 Well,...I didn't forget them, 525 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,760 I...I just missed out. I know, I'm sorry. 526 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:48,800 You could have got in touch before. 527 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,040 You never stop loving your children, you know. 528 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600 Even though sometimes... 529 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,600 ..you have to walk away, 530 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,720 you never stop loving your children. 531 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,120 Some people just react differently... 532 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,240 You know, the situation and everything... 533 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,560 I'm sorry. 534 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,600 Hello? 535 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,600 Hi, Wes. 536 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,200 Yeah. 537 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:25,800 Yep, OK, thank you. Bye-bye. 538 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,240 I'm sorry, I've got to go. 539 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,480 If it wasn't the drink, it was the job. 540 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,680 Let me take you out for dinner tonight, Emma, eh? 541 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,440 We can go to that little Italian I used to take you and Sarah to 542 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,480 for your birthdays. You know, it'll be like old times. 543 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,000 Only without the booze and the arguments. 544 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,680 Eight o'clock. Let me make it up to you, please? 545 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,320 Seven. I've got plans with my friends at eight. Great. 546 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,000 Seven. That'll be brilliant. Yeah. 547 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,800 I get that you don't like talking about family stuff, 548 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,520 but just answer me one question. I'd really rather not. 549 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,200 I'll never ask another thing about your personal life. 550 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,240 Why don't I believe you? 551 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,080 Don't you think you owe it to your mum to be there today? 552 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,520 Owe her? 553 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,560 I'm grateful she gave birth to me, and that's where it ends. 554 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,400 You must have one happy memory. 555 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,360 One time when things were good with her? 556 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,040 Don't you ever give up? What about when you were little? 557 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,760 I'd love to tell you she nursed me through chicken pox 558 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,720 and cheered me at football matches but it never happened. 559 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,960 I had this client who had a brain tumour. 560 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,200 And it was like his whole personality changed overnight. 561 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,480 He was this loving family man one minute, 562 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,360 and the next he's gambling, drinking, 563 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,080 defrauding his business partners, sleeping with prostitutes. 564 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,200 When they found the tumour and took it out, 565 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,240 he was back to his old self. 566 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,680 He couldn't believe the things he'd done. 567 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,720 I got him off, obviously. 568 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120 Maybe your mum's tumour was always there, 569 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,160 making her the way she was, 570 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,200 and it turned into cancer later. 571 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,240 Anyway, it was good of you to take care of her like you did, 572 00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:09,840 seeing as you never got on. 573 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,760 I visited her...every fortnight. 574 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,400 So you do have a heart. 575 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,040 She's dead. She won't know if I'm there or not. 576 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,480 But you will. 577 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,560 One day you might regret it. I doubt that. 578 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,640 Anyway, it's too late. Funeral's over. 579 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,840 It's never too late. 580 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,840 Uniform has spoken to everyone in the victim support group, 581 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,480 except for David Manning. 582 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,480 He moved abroad with his son after his wife died in the crash. 583 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,000 Have we got a number for him? We have left messages, 584 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,240 but his stepson Billy's been attending the group on his behalf. 585 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,240 You think this Billy could be involved? 586 00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:59,840 Pretty much everyone uniform spoke to mentioned Gavin and Billy were close. 587 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,400 They were the self-appointed leaders of the group, 588 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,760 organised the meetings, spurred the others on. 589 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,520 Always went for a drink afterwards. 590 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040 Maybe they were just offering each other support. 591 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,160 And maybe they had the biggest grievance. 592 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,240 Gavin lost his wife and son in that crash 593 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:15,840 and Billy lost his mum. Lots of people lost a parent. 594 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,760 Yeah, but Eva Manning spent the last five years fighting cancer. 595 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,080 No, ta. She got the all-clear three days before the crash. 596 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Right, well, let's get this Billy in, interview him. 597 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,000 Problem is, we can't find any records for a Billy Manning, 598 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,840 and he's not answering the number the solicitor gave us. 599 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,320 Maybe Gavin Dale knows where we can find him. 600 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,040 He's still in custody, plenty of time left on the clock. 601 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,280 We'll have a go with him. 602 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,320 Guv, intel's finished going through Gavin Dale's phone data. 603 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,920 There's a long text conversation with a Billy. 604 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,480 Number's been investigated. It came from an unregistered pay-as-you-go. 605 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,000 The conversation mainly talks about meeting up, 606 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,640 sent over the past few months. 607 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,360 But on the day Tyler died, 608 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,920 Billy sent that message to Gavin Dale's phone. 609 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,360 "There's no going back. It's down to you." 610 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,360 Some kind of pact. 611 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,440 And Gavin Dale's the chosen one. 612 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,120 Tell us where Billy Manning is. 613 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,760 I don't know. Come on, you're a friend of his. 614 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,800 We only met at the group. 615 00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,920 You don't know where he lives, where he works? 616 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,120 No. 617 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,880 You did have some sort of pact with him, we know that, 618 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,920 and that you planned Tyler's death. 619 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,840 All we ever wanted was justice. 620 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,160 And the court never gave you that, right? 621 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,600 So what, you and Billy just decided to get justice of your own? 622 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,920 We just wanted him to do the right thing - 623 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,960 to kill himself. 624 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,200 Tyler said he wanted to die. He said that's why he caused the crash. 625 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,640 So what you're telling us is you gave him the means to kill himself, 626 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,680 he wouldn't, so you helped him? I told you the truth. 627 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,600 I told him "If you had any kind of conscience you'd do the right thing." 628 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,040 And then I gave him the cord from my jacket. 629 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,640 Mm, well, you see, 630 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,480 that's not what the bruising on Tyler's back tells us. 631 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:03,960 That tells us that his killer put their knee into his back, 632 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,480 held him down, and then choked him to death. 633 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,080 But Tyler killed himself. 634 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:14,080 His killer... then forced his hands away 635 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,840 when Tyler tried to free himself, struggling for air 636 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,920 and fighting for his life. No. 637 00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,800 Then his killer strung him up to make it look like suicide. 638 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,440 I swear to God, I left him alive. 639 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,760 You've admitted being in Tyler's cell. 640 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,440 You also admitted giving him the cord from your jacket 641 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,480 that was used to strangle him. 642 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Look, whoever tied the knots in that cord, 643 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,400 they very likely left their DNA under those knots. 644 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:45,160 We're gonna have the results back soon. Is it gonna be your DNA we find under those knots, Gavin? 645 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,200 Because if it is,... 646 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:49,760 ..Gavin,... 647 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,520 ..you're looking at life. 648 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,440 We all talked about it - 649 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,040 what we'd do if Tyler didn't get life. 650 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,840 But the others, they were all talk. 651 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,160 Only me and Billy really cared, so we drew straws. 652 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,400 To decide which one of you would kill Tyler? 653 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,520 To decide which one of us would talk him into killing himself. 654 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,880 I drew the short straw. I made the cord into a noose. 655 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,240 I did that. My DNA is gonna be under those knots. 656 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,920 But I swear to God that's all I did. 657 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,800 So you're saying Billy did the rest? He must have done, 658 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,840 but I didn't know. I swear. 659 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,640 Billy told me Tyler killed himself. 660 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,800 Can't find any record of Billy Manning. 661 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,840 Can you help us out, Gavin? 662 00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,160 Manning's his mum's name. Right. 663 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,720 He started using it after she died. OK, so what's his real name? 664 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,480 It's Braxton. William Braxton. 665 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,880 He's going away tonight. Where? 666 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,800 Come on, Gavin. 667 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,960 Platform three, it's across the walkway. 668 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,840 Er, Steve, stay here, please. And Hugo, exit. Exit. 669 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,240 That's him, Ron, over there. 670 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:32,520 Right, Wes, I've got this. 671 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,920 Going away, Billy? 672 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,680 New start. My train's due any minute. 673 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,400 Do you want to talk, son? 674 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,440 I can't miss it. 675 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,360 I know your mum died in that crash. 676 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,000 I really can't do this now. 677 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,920 I know your stepdad and your brother moved abroad, didn't they? 678 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,440 That only left you, and you must have thought 679 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,760 you was the only one who cared for your mum, eh? 680 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,480 They wanted to put it all behind them. 681 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,320 But I couldn't leave her. 682 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,400 You really loved her, didn't you? 683 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:45,480 She was the only person who ever got me. 684 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:51,280 I understand she was a bit of a hero. 685 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,360 All the time she had cancer, she... 686 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,160 ..she was thinking what she could do to help others. 687 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,560 What race she could run, how much money she could raise. 688 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,680 She was the most selfless person I ever knew. 689 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,480 But Tyler,...he was the opposite, wasn't he? 690 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:18,880 So selfish. 691 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,880 He didn't care who he hurt. 692 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,680 Did you go into Tyler's cell, Billy? 693 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,680 The cord was on the floor. 694 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,280 He should have done it himself, but he didn't have the balls. 695 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,640 You did though, eh? I had to. 696 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,360 For Mum. 697 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,840 And for Gavin's little boy. 698 00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,480 For all the other people on that train he killed. 699 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,600 He was gonna get away with it. 700 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,880 A few months in hospital, chatting about his feelings? 701 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,400 How is that justice? 702 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,080 I picked up the cord,... 703 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,120 ..I said, "This is for Eva Manning." 704 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480 Then I got my mum justice. 705 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,560 Where's your luggage, Billy? 706 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,680 You all right, son? 707 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,960 I've got you. 708 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,840 Hello? 709 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,200 Oh, right. 710 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,920 I'm on my way. No, no, I'm on my way. 711 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,240 You all right? Er, yeah, 712 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:13,280 I've um... Wes, I've got to do this. 713 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,080 'It's been a funny old day today. 714 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,680 I spent it trying to find out why a man was murdered. 715 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,720 Cos the man killed a lot of innocent people. 716 00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:28,520 And we did our best to get justice for the families, 717 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,920 but the court decided he wasn't really responsible.' 718 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:36,000 Mate, can I get another one when you're ready, please? 719 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:37,840 No? 720 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480 'I saw people on the news cheering cos the guy was dead 721 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,240 and saying that the death penalty should be brought back for people like him. 722 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,160 One of his victims even took justice into his own hands 723 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,720 and now he's gonna spend the rest of his life in prison paying for it.' 724 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,560 'There's people saying that justice has been done. 725 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,000 I dunno. 726 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,280 I can't stop thinking of that little girl... 727 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,240 ..growing up without a dad.' 728 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,200 Emma, I'm... 729 00:44:15,720 --> 00:44:18,120 I'm sorry I've let you down. 730 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,680 And I'd really like to try again, honest. 731 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,200 I hope you're listening. 732 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,720 Love you - Dad. 733 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,440 subtitles by Deluxe